With the Breakin' Convention coming up (get your tickets here, http://www.sadlerswells.com/whats-on/2015/breakin-convention-15/ this is not one to miss!) it's time to dig deeper and find out a little more about what it takes to become a truly great artist. Becoming great at what you do is often linked with having a pure passion for what you do. When this package is also wrapped up with a desire to spread a strong message the results can be explosive, which Cindy has been described as before. Known as '@dancebackpacker' on Twitter, she received the Lisa Ullman Travelling Scholarship Fund in 2008 which started her on her journey to go to the root of where her dance passions were born, and travelled to different places to develop and master her craft. Since then she has been unstoppable. Not only is she a great example of a dance artist with many hats, she's another brilliant, strong and unique role model for women. Thanks to the guys at the Breakin' Convention, they let me ask her a few questions to which she gave some very stimulating answers. Thank you Cindy...see you over the Bank holiday!
Do you
remember what sparked your love and interest for Dancehall and Krumping?
I fell in love with Dancehall when I was still living in
Belgium.
The enthusiasm for Dancehall and its music was very
present, even though we don’t really have a Caribbean community back home. Back
in the mid/late 90s, the energy of hiphop culture was mainly carried forward by
the Congolese and Moroccan communities in Belgium. When you went to a Hiphop
club, there would always be a section during the night where the DJ’s would
play Dancehall and N’dombolo music. So,
Dancehall was around me, and people who loved the music too.
There was no YouTube yet, and we didn’t have access to
information about Dancehall culture. But
the love for Dancehall was everywhere. I already had the dream to go to
Jamaica, to understand the roots of the culture and experience Dancehall from
where it came from.
The rest is history, but still a long journey! I moved to
London in 2005. I improved my English
(people often forget I wasn’t as fluent back then as I am now), and this made a
huge difference. Speaking and understanding English opened the doors to
eventually understand Patois. I am really fascinated by Patois, I love studying
the language, I believe that when we understand a language, we also understand
more of a culture. I lived in Brixton for many years, and Jamaican culture was
everywhere in London. Later on I was awarded fundings at several occasions
which allowed me to travel to Jamaica to do choreographic research (ADAD
Trailblazers, Bonnie Bird UK New Choreography Fund). I travelled for the first
time to Jamaica in 2010.
Dancehall is a culture that keeps evolving, new steps are
being created on a regular basis, and as a Dancehall dancer and choreographer,
I must keep up to date. It can sometimes be hard when being far away from the
source. Even though internet and YouTube is available now, I still want to
travel regularly to the island to continue my research and stay in touch with
the scene. It is a very vibrant and
creative culture.
My love for Krumping developed soon after I moved to the
UK (2005). A friend of mine introduced me to some videos he found online. I
didn’t know Krumping existed, but the internet opened the doors to something
new for me. It was exciting as I could really relate to the quality of movement
and I loved the energy.
Then the documentary “Rize” came out and blew my mind, I
was hooked. Again, I wanted to experience Krumping from where it came from and
I applied for fundings. The Lisa Ullman Traveling Scholarship Fund allowed me
to go to Los Angeles and do choreographic research on Krumping.
I created a strong relationship with Demolition Crew.
Fudd (one of the leaders of the crew) took me under his wing, I became Lady
Fudd. I trained with them and got to understand Krump culture from the inside.
The energy and also the friendships people created amongst themselves through
dance was so strong and so beautiful.
I not only got to understand Krump culture but I also
started to understand the social and economical climate of the area more
in-depth. Gang culture is very predominant in South Los Angeles and this is
impacting all areas of lives: who people date or don’t date, how people dress,
how people walk, when people go home, how people address one another, etc. Gun
crime has made and continues to make many victims.
Myself and Demolition Crew set up a Krumping Theatre
project in Long Beach and Compton a few years later. I lead workshops and
introduced local dancers to the art of Dance Theatre, and they trained me more
and more with my Krumping technique. We did a whole hour show in a small local
theatre venue and one of our piece then got programmed for a festival in
Hollywood! It was a massive achievement to be able to perform our Krumping
Theatre piece at the Ford Amphitheatre for the Annual Juice Hiphop Festival,
the venue is truly magnificent!
What made
you want to combine the medium of Theatre with Dance?
My interest for Hiphop Theatre started when I was a young
dancer in Belgium. However there wasn’t much Hiphop Theatre around due to a
lack of fundings. Even today, the Hiphop
Theatre sector is really struggling to receive support back home.
My Belgian mentors encouraged me to pursue the path of
choreography even though I was still trying to articulate what I wanted to do
with my “dance life”.
As a young Hiphop dancer, I thought the only way I could
make a living from my art was by doing commercial work: corporate events, music
videos, etc. But I didn’t feel happy, and I felt pressured by the industry as I
never met the physical requirements, I was never slim enough or sexy enough,
and “something” was missing.
Despite the many rejections and the commercial dance jobs
which didn’t trigger much enthusiasm on my behalf, deep down I knew I wanted to
“make it” in the dance industry. I knew dancing was my purpose but I couldn’t
really articulate where I wanted to go.
I then got into a Contemporary Dance Company who were
looking for dancers from different backgrounds (I was actually the only Hiphop
dancer who got through the audition). I
worked with “La Compagnie” for a year and it opened up a new world. I got to experience a new approach to
choreography which was new to me.
When moving to London in 2005, I was surrounded by role
models and artists who were passionate about Hiphop Theatre. It changed my
life, radically!
Hiphop Theatre allowed me to express myself artistically
and intellectually. I felt I was an
artist who had something to say, and Hiphop Theatre gave me a platform to do
so.
I attended “The Surgery” and Jonzi D’s workshops
regularly, I trained with various peers and explored Hiphop Theatre work, I did
research at the British Library and read about the Hiphop Theatre movement in
the USA, I looked up on Hiphop Theatre pioneers such as Benji Reid and Robert
Hilton. I also looked up to Franck Wilson (performer), he is an incredible
inspiration for me, he has such a powerful charisma on stage, and our
conversations always make me grow.
At the start of my career as a choreographer, I created abstract
work.
My inspirations where very social and politically
driven. I wanted to impact audiences on a deeper level, initiate debates
around social issues. So my work soon became very narrative driven. Hungry for
more knowledge, I started researching the art of storytelling. A new journey
began in 2011 when Faith Drama Productions commissioned me for my first full
length production: “Voices in the Alleyway” when I was mentored by Gbemisola
Ikumelo (Theatre Director / Playwright).
After the production I went off to a 6 months research trip and spent 3
months in NYC focussing on improv’ comedy, acting, play writing and
screenwriting. Coming back to the UK in 2012, I continued my training as
a writer and storyteller by doing various courses in screenwriting, creative
writing, stand up comedy and more. This unique journey and the knowledge I acquired over the years have informed and nurtured my work as a dancer and choreographer.
(I will be teaching a full day workshop on
Storytelling for Dance on Wed 13th May 11am-3pm at Stratford Circus (info and
registrations: www.eastlondondance.org)
You’ve
recently been working on International Dance Theatre exchanges- what is your
dream outcome from these exchanges?
I am very proud to say I have impacted and collaborated
with about 65 dancers across the world on various Dance Theatre Exchange
Programs (Belgium, Los Angeles, Jamaica). And I will soon work with the British
Council on a Dancehall Theatre Program in Venezuela, which I am very excited
about!
I truly believe it is through International Exchanges
that we tap into our leadership potential.
When going abroad we learn to receive and to give. We become a sponge and are hungry to learn,
we are excited and everything is new. We
also learn to give, but before we “give” to others we must ask ourselves how we
can contribute to others, and we must reflect on our strengths and abilities.
Being abroad we are vulnerable as we are out of our
comfort zones.
We are in another country for a limited amount of time, so
we learn to drop our fears and take action to achieve our goals, as we know
time is limited and the trip will come an end.
It is all of this that allows us to grow and develop our leadership
potential.
We also discover that all artists in the world have
similar struggles, but we answer them differently. It is through these exchanges that we find
new solutions and try out new approaches.
My long term vision is to set up an organization which
can support regular international exchanges for dancers. I want to find a model
that can allow these projects to become more sustainable in the long run and
allow more street dancers to access the power and beauty of Theatre.
The ultimate dream is to make documentaries or films
about the exchanges to inspire others and bring more knowledge about various
cultures to audiences.
In 2012,
you adapted the classic tale ’School for Wives’ adding your dancehall twist to
re-tell the story. If you could adapt another tale in the future what would it
be?
I was commissioned by Midland Actors Theatre to create a
Jamaican re-adaptation of a Moliere classic.
“School for Wives” became “School fi Wifey”. It was a very enriching
experience, the process was challenging as it was my first commission as a
playwright. It truly pushed me outside of my comfort zone.
Moliere only wrote comedies, so the creative process and
rehearsals were a lot of fun! It also thought me a lot about comedy, which is
another area of interest I have been exploring for the last few years. It is
somehow easier to make people cry than to make people laugh!
My biggest dream, and challenge, is to write a unique
authentic story myself which I could translate in dance. Even though I would love to re-adapt existing
stories into a dance version, at the moment I am focussing my creative time on
trying to write a groundbreaking story myself.
My latest project is my new solo. I will be performing
“Time is Ticking, Phone is Ringing” at Breakin’ Convention 2015. It is the start of a new narrative about love
and romance, which I hope to develop over the next year into a much longer
version.
Where did
you travel to as a Dance Backpacker that had the greatest influence on your
work?
I think it was my first trips to Africa and my encounters
with rappers and Hiphop lovers in Niger that influenced me the most. I went
several times to Niamey (my first trip was in 1999).
Being able to exchange with peer Hiphop lovers in another
continent made me understand how much international exchanges were important.
We were part of a worldwide community. Hiphop created the opportunity for us to
bond. I observed Hiphop being influenced by the local culture. I understood
that everywhere in the world artists have similar struggles but we find
different answers to our problems. We shared our dreams, we shared about what
inspired us. We all expressed our
thoughts and emotions through Hiphop.
I think this is what sparked what would follow after in
my career...
What
advice would you give to any young people out there looking to get into dance
in general but particularly dancehall?
Do not stay stuck behind your screen watching
YouTube. The internet can be a great
tool to find information, but it can also be a great tool for “disinformation”.
Go and experience the dance forms your practice. Do what
it takes to go to the root of it, in other words: travel. Find a way, don’t let
anything stop you from reaching that goal.
Read. Read books and articles about the genres you
practice.
Advice when it comes to Dancehall...
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Go to
Jamaica, experience Dancehall in Kingston, you won’t come back the same.
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Research
Dancehall, but also Reggae and Jamaican Folk dance forms such as Kumina, Dinki
Mini, Revival. It will inform your practice and your understanding of the genre
as a whole.
What
exciting plans or projects have you got coming up in the next year?
I will lead a one day
workshop on “Storytelling in Dance” on Wed 13th May 11am-3pm at Stratford
Circus. The Workshop is part of East
London Dance’s Dance Forum series.
I recently set up a
professional development program for Hiphop, Dancehall, Krumping, Afobeats
artists who want to create Theatre work. The first training program took place
in Brussels in January 2015 and was produced in association with Zinnema.
The program offered
Artistic training as well as Business training to the participants. It was a
massive success!! So “1000Pieces Puzzel - the Dance Career Bootcamp” will be
back in Jan/Feb 2016 and take place both in Belgium and in the UK!! We are
currently applying for fundings to allow 30 artists to be involved in this
Belgium/UK exchange program.
Cindy Claes
www.cindyclaes.com